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	<title>Comments on: $100 Lift Tickets and $4.00/gal. Gas - Coming Soon</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Mitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very true, Brig... I agree with you.  The high-end resorts are there for the experience and truly target destination skiers.  I just don't want all the "local's favorite" resorts to follow suit and price everyone out of the market.  

We all need resorts like Beaver Mountain, Alpental, Mt. Baker, Anthony Lakes, Pomerelle and others that cater to the locals in both atmosphere and price.  

I just hope that both types of hills can survive in peace and financial harmony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very true, Brig&#8230; I agree with you.  The high-end resorts are there for the experience and truly target destination skiers.  I just don&#8217;t want all the &#8220;local&#8217;s favorite&#8221; resorts to follow suit and price everyone out of the market.  </p>
<p>We all need resorts like Beaver Mountain, Alpental, Mt. Baker, Anthony Lakes, Pomerelle and others that cater to the locals in both atmosphere and price.  </p>
<p>I just hope that both types of hills can survive in peace and financial harmony.</p>
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		<title>By: Brig Graff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brig Graff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it's a little crazy to see lift tickets heading that direction, but that's for the real high-end resorts like Deer Valley and Vail. And when you compare those lift ticket prices to the cost of 18 holes of golf at a world-class golf resort, skiing at Vail for $92 for a WHOLE DAY looks CHEEEEEAAP. And golf is a growing sport, even at those prices. But the difference with golf is that there are still tons of public courses all over the place -- you don't have to play the expensive resorts if you don't want to. And golf is a sport that most of the U.S. can practice right in their back yard...you don't need mountains &#038; snow. 

So I think there could be a market for little local ski resorts that see themselves as the "public golf courses" of the ski world. A quaint little ski resort with cheap tickets and family cabins &#038; condos everywhere, where the masses learn to ski &#038; fall in love with the place for nostalgic reasons. Those little resorts shouldn't see themselves as competing with the high-end places -- they should just notice that there is a widening stratification in the market and make a name for themselves as a great family spot with weekend public races &#038; competitions &#038; just a fun place for families to go....where they can actually AFFORD it, too. Alpental, WA is definitely one of those places...along with its sisters, Snoqualmie Summit and Ski Acres. Contrast that with Whistler, BC. We grew up skiing Alpental, but every year we would do 1 or 2 trips to Whistler for the high-end experience, too. But Alpental is my "home mountain."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it&#8217;s a little crazy to see lift tickets heading that direction, but that&#8217;s for the real high-end resorts like Deer Valley and Vail. And when you compare those lift ticket prices to the cost of 18 holes of golf at a world-class golf resort, skiing at Vail for $92 for a WHOLE DAY looks CHEEEEEAAP. And golf is a growing sport, even at those prices. But the difference with golf is that there are still tons of public courses all over the place &#8212; you don&#8217;t have to play the expensive resorts if you don&#8217;t want to. And golf is a sport that most of the U.S. can practice right in their back yard&#8230;you don&#8217;t need mountains &#038; snow. </p>
<p>So I think there could be a market for little local ski resorts that see themselves as the &#8220;public golf courses&#8221; of the ski world. A quaint little ski resort with cheap tickets and family cabins &#038; condos everywhere, where the masses learn to ski &#038; fall in love with the place for nostalgic reasons. Those little resorts shouldn&#8217;t see themselves as competing with the high-end places &#8212; they should just notice that there is a widening stratification in the market and make a name for themselves as a great family spot with weekend public races &#038; competitions &#038; just a fun place for families to go&#8230;.where they can actually AFFORD it, too. Alpental, WA is definitely one of those places&#8230;along with its sisters, Snoqualmie Summit and Ski Acres. Contrast that with Whistler, BC. We grew up skiing Alpental, but every year we would do 1 or 2 trips to Whistler for the high-end experience, too. But Alpental is my &#8220;home mountain.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: greggblanchard</title>
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		<dc:creator>greggblanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is ridiculous.  I skied the Beav today and could barely afford the $38 hit to my account.  Granted, I am a college student, but at this rate, by the time I graduate I will need to either strike gold or stay in Logan for my entire life to afford skiing.

For me, the true fun of skiing is slowly becoming lost at resorts.  I can only afford to ski at other resorts on special days like Brighton's Quad Wednesdays or 2-1 Night Skiing deals. Unfortunately, I am only one of 10,000 other people who are in the same boat and my skiing experience for the day is full of dodging flocks of beginner snowboarders and waiting in never-ending lift lines.

I have been doing more backcountry skiing because of it, but because my skiing friends don't share the pleasure or earning your turns that gets a bit lonesome (and dangerous) when done solo.  I hope lift ticket prices level off soon, or at least stop rising at this rate.  Otherwise, it feels like resort skiing will become an elitist sport for kids with rich parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is ridiculous.  I skied the Beav today and could barely afford the $38 hit to my account.  Granted, I am a college student, but at this rate, by the time I graduate I will need to either strike gold or stay in Logan for my entire life to afford skiing.</p>
<p>For me, the true fun of skiing is slowly becoming lost at resorts.  I can only afford to ski at other resorts on special days like Brighton&#8217;s Quad Wednesdays or 2-1 Night Skiing deals. Unfortunately, I am only one of 10,000 other people who are in the same boat and my skiing experience for the day is full of dodging flocks of beginner snowboarders and waiting in never-ending lift lines.</p>
<p>I have been doing more backcountry skiing because of it, but because my skiing friends don&#8217;t share the pleasure or earning your turns that gets a bit lonesome (and dangerous) when done solo.  I hope lift ticket prices level off soon, or at least stop rising at this rate.  Otherwise, it feels like resort skiing will become an elitist sport for kids with rich parents.</p>
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